{"id":30154,"date":"2016-06-24T13:29:39","date_gmt":"2016-06-24T18:29:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=30154"},"modified":"2016-06-24T13:34:24","modified_gmt":"2016-06-24T18:34:24","slug":"brexit-and-the-scottish-independence-question","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=30154","title":{"rendered":"Brexit and the Scottish Independence Question"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This morning at work I listened to BBC Radio 4&#8217;s <i>The World at One<\/i> program.  It&#8217;s a news program I&#8217;ve never listened to &mdash; usually, I listen to the BBC World Service&#8217;s <i>Newshour<\/i> &mdash; but I wanted to get a feel for what was happening on the ground in the wake of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/thetwo-way\/2016\/06\/24\/483327087\/bbc-projects-united-kingdom-votes-to-leave-the-european-union?utm_source=npr_newsletter&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_content=20160623&#038;utm_campaign=breakingnews&#038;utm_term=nprnews\">the Brexit vote for Britain to leave the European Union<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The host of <i>The World at One<\/i> spoke with Dr. Liam Fox, a Tory member of Parliament and a former Defense Secretary.  I&#8217;d never heard of Fox &mdash; as an American, I can&#8217;t be familiar with Britain&#8217;s politicians as I can barely keep up with my own &mdash; and he was clearly in the Leave camp.<\/p>\n<p>The host raised with Fox the question of Scottish independence.  Two years ago, Scotland voted to remain within the United Kingdom.  This morning, Scotland&#8217;s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/2016\/jun\/24\/alex-salmond-second-scottish-independence-referendum-is-certain\">the facts on the ground have changed and the stage is set for a second referendum<\/a>; if the choice is an independent Scotland inside the EU or a Scotland unified with the United Kingdom outside of it, Scotland should have that choice especially since Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the European Union.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/scotland-flags-640x480.jpg\" alt=\"scotland-flags\" class=\"alignright size-large wp-image-28658\" \/>Fox engaged in some breathtaking verbal gynmastics as the host pressed the idea that Scotland voted to remain within the EU.  &#8220;No, Scotland didn&#8217;t,&#8221; said Fox, paraphrasing from memory.  &#8220;Scotland voted to remain within the Union two years ago.  The Union voted to leave the European Union.  Scotland&#8217;s constituencies voted to stay in the European Union, but Scotland did not.  We don&#8217;t have a federal system.  Scotland doesn&#8217;t have a voice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Though I was opposed to Scottish independence two years ago, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=28659\">something I wrote in the aftermath<\/a> seems apropos and counters Fox&#8217;s argument:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Scotland was given a choice to determine its own future.  Plus, the referendum made everyone around the world talk about Scotland, at least for the last two weeks.  It wasn&#8217;t just a place on the map.  It was a place filled with people with dreams and aspirations.  I think we lose sight of that.  Not with Scotland specifically.  Rather, I think we lose sight of the fact that there are seven billion people on this planet, that there are more countries and more peoples than we can count &#8212; or even realistically remember &#8212; and every person is important.  Every person has dreams and desires.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Two years ago, people thought about the <i>idea<\/i> of Scotland as a place, separate from the United Kingdom, and released a genie from the bottle.  Yesterday&#8217;s Brexit vote shows that Scotland has interests that run counter to the majority of the citizens of the United Kingdom.  A Scotland empowered since devolution over fifteen years ago may well take its future into its own hands and make a clean break, and verbal gymnastics like those from Liam Fox won&#8217;t induce Scotland to remain in a UK where it no longer feels welcome.<\/p>\n<p>And this time, though <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=28655\">I would have been a reluctant No vote on independence<\/a>, I may have to back an independent Scotland wholeheartedly.  Though it would mean the end of the dream of James I to unify the island into a single kingdom, perhaps it will be best for all involved if the United Kingdom ceases to be united.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This morning at work I listened to BBC Radio 4&#8217;s The World at One program. It&#8217;s a news program I&#8217;ve never listened to &mdash; usually, I listen to the BBC World Service&#8217;s Newshour &mdash; but I wanted to get a feel for what was happening on the ground in the wake of the Brexit vote<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=30154\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8220;Brexit and the Scottish Independence Question&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":30155,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[86],"tags":[4451,88,3966],"class_list":["post-30154","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-brexit","tag-scotland","tag-scottish-independence","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30154","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=30154"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30154\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/30155"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=30154"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=30154"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=30154"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}