{"id":8,"date":"2001-02-02T19:37:00","date_gmt":"2001-02-02T19:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=8"},"modified":"2001-02-02T19:37:00","modified_gmt":"2001-02-02T19:37:00","slug":"more-on-sulu-novels","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=8","title":{"rendered":"More on Sulu novels"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From John Ordover:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Yes, we could use Spock as a prop for Sulu, just as we used Picard and  Spock in the first <b>New Frontier<\/b> book &#8211; but why should we?:)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For the exact same reason as the NextGen angle was played in <b>New Frontier<\/b>: to draw in readers.  For the same reason Picard features on the cover of <i>Avatar<\/i>, Book One: the draw in readers.  It&#8217;s the same reason Batman appeared in damn near every DC comic in the summer and fall of 1989.  It&#8217;s the same reason Spider-Man will appear in damn near every Marvel comic next summer. It&#8217;s because Batman in 1989 and Spider-Man in 2002 will have drawing power. It&#8217;s the same reason Peter David writes <b>New Frontier<\/b>: his name has drawing power.<\/p>\n<p>I wonder if <i>The Captain&#8217;s Daughter<\/i> might have sold better had it had someone <i>in addition to Sulu<\/i> on the cover.  I&#8217;m willing to bet <i>The Fearful Summons<\/i> had higher sales than <i>TCD<\/i> <i>because<\/i> of Kirk&#8217;s presence on the cover.  Once again, it&#8217;s the drawing power.<\/p>\n<p><b>NextGen<\/b> obviously sells.  I&#8217;m assuming Spock sells.  Sulu on his own you&#8217;ve said doesn&#8217;t sell.  <b>NextGen<\/b> is mainstream.  Spock is mainstream.  Sulu is a niche concept.<\/p>\n<p>Do we agree thus far?  Props are used for drawing power, and Sulu lacks drawing power <i>on his own<\/i>?  That Sulu is a niche concept in the <i>Trek<\/i> community?  I think we can agree on this, John.<\/p>\n<p>The question is whether or not the drawing power of another part of the <i>Trek<\/i> universe can be or should be used in conjunction with Sulu.  I know we will disagree on this.  Certainly another part of the <i>Trek<\/i> universe can be used with Sulu, but should it happen?  You&#8217;re the editor, I&#8217;m just the reader, but I&#8217;m not so sure you have the magical answer in this case.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sulu, IMHO, doesn&#8217;t have a particular draw nor does he provide a character that we would be able to change and grow at will, ala <b>New Frontier<\/b>.  We&#8217;re better off putting our energy in other directions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I wonder about this, however.  If Sulu is the blank slate you&#8217;ve said he is, John, if Sulu is a character that the Paramount production offices have zero interest in, as they apparently feel, then why can&#8217;t Sulu be grown as a character?  Given the definition that you&#8217;ve long claimed is lacking?  I know your analogy&#8211;we knew more of Shelby from &#8220;Best of Both Worlds&#8221; than of Sulu in the past thirty-five years&#8211;but I question this assertion.  In terms of sheer knowledge about the characters, Okuda&#8217;s encyclopedia gives us more on Sulu than on Shelby.  And we&#8217;ve had twenty-plus years of novel adventures with Sulu, detailing his history from his childhood on Ganjitsu to when he took command of the <i>Excelsior<\/i>.  Non-canon, I realize, but certainly background color.<\/p>\n<p>In terms of providing a link to <i>Trek<\/i>&#8216;s past, Sulu would be more interesting than a non-<b>Classic <i>Trek<\/i><\/b> character in a hypothetical novel about Spock&#8217;s first ambassadorial mission, for instance.  The unknown character would have <i>zero<\/i> history with Spock, while Sulu would have a history with Spock that could lead to unexpected conflict if Spock and Sulu came to loggerheads on the best route of action.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not convinced, then, that starting from a blank-slate unknown character is the best route to take.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You&#8217;re assuming your conclusion &#8211; you&#8217;re saying &#8220;Sulu is worth concentrating effort on, therefore here&#8217;s a way to concentrate effort on him that might be effective, and you should do it because he&#8217;s worth focusing energy on.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, we can play at syllogisms all day if that&#8217;s what you want. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, the syllogism I&#8217;d have thought you&#8217;d take away from the Sulu question is:<\/p>\n<p>1) Sulu is an interesting character in his own right.<br \/>\n2) Interesting characters deserve storytelling.<br \/>\nTherefore,<br \/>\n3) Sulu deserves storytelling.<\/p>\n<p>And you&#8217;d question the initial premise, and you&#8217;d have that right.  The second premise seems self-evident, otherwise why bother with storytelling to begin with (and you&#8217;d be out of a job, John)?<\/p>\n<p>So, is Sulu an interesting character in his own right?  I&#8217;ve always thought he is?  Why have I thought this?  Here goes:<\/p>\n<p>Sulu is unique among <b>Classic <i>Trek<\/i><\/b> characters in that he&#8217;s the only one of Kirk&#8217;s command crew to receive his own command and move outside of the Enterprise sphere-of-influence.  After Kirk&#8217;s &#8220;death&#8221; and Spock&#8217;s retirement from Starfleet, Sulu is the only Classic <i>Trek<\/i> character still &#8220;boldly going&#8221; in the post-<b>Star <i>Trek<\/i> VI<\/b> period.  More importantly, Sulu would be the only <b>Classic <i>Trek<\/i><\/b> character to be in a position to experience the beginnings of the philosophic turn from the balls-to-the-walls <b>Classic <i>Trek<\/i><\/b> era to the constipated <b>NextGen<\/b> era.<\/p>\n<p>Do these make Sulu interesting for who he is or for when he lived?  Perhaps the latter more than the former, but for providing a route into exploring that change in philosophy, Sulu would be the only viable option short of creating a whole new character from scratch.  Spock can&#8217;t explore the change in Starfleet&#8217;s philosophy as he&#8217;s no longer in Starfleet post-2296 or so. McCoy?  He wouldn&#8217;t fight the political fights.  Uhura and Chekov?  Here we&#8217;re constrained by canon; we don&#8217;t know what happens with these two, and while I like Shatner&#8217;s future for Chekov (C-in-C of Starfleet) and the Sherman\/Shwartz future for Uhura (head of Starfleet Intel) I also know that you&#8217;re not constrained by past novels since they&#8217;re not canon, even if they happened under your watch.  Sulu does appear to be the only route into exploring those changes, if that&#8217;s something even remotely of interest.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not going to change your mind, John, but neither will you change mine.  I don&#8217;t want an on-going Sulu series, but an occasional novel with Sulu and the <i>Excelsior<\/i>, just as we&#8217;ve had occasional novels and stories with Pike and the <i>Enterprise<\/i>, would make me happy.  Doesn&#8217;t even have to be a novel with Sulu; an eBook novella would do just fine, thanks.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But there are other things to concentrate effort on that are simply more appealing than Sulu.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hypothetical question.  Suppose George Takei approached Pocket wanting to write a Sulu novel.  Would you dismiss him out of hand because the novel would star Sulu?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From John Ordover: Yes, we could use Spock as a prop for Sulu, just as we used Picard and Spock in the first New Frontier book &#8211; but why should we?:) For the exact same reason as the NextGen angle was played in New Frontier: to draw in readers. 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