{"id":826,"date":"2006-08-13T11:03:20","date_gmt":"2006-08-13T16:03:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.net\/?p=826"},"modified":"2006-08-13T11:03:20","modified_gmt":"2006-08-13T16:03:20","slug":"on-defending-v-for-vendetta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=826","title":{"rendered":"On Defending V For Vendetta"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last night, browsing one of the bulletin boards I frequent, I chanced across a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trekbbs.com\/threads\/showflat.php?Cat=0&#038;Number=6420448&#038;an=0&#038;page=0#Post6420448\">thread blasting <i>V For Vendetta<\/i><\/a>, the adaptation of Alan Moore and David Lloyd&#8217;s graphic novel about an anarchist fighting a near-future fascist British government, for being, and I quote, &#8220;boring.&#8221;  Said the writer of the post:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If this was supposed to be a comic book &#8220;superhero&#8221; movie, I sure didn&#8217;t see it. From the trailers it looked like it was gonna be action packed. Secondly, the fact that the &#8220;hero&#8221; was a terrorist didn&#8217;t win any points with me either.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I leapt to the film&#8217;s defence.  How could I not?  I thought <i>V For Vendetta<\/i> was a very entertaining, thought-provoking film, a modern heir to dystopian stories like Orwell&#8217;s <i>1984<\/i>.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trekbbs.com\/threads\/showflat.php?Number=6422936#Post6422936\">Said I<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Except that V <i>did<\/i> fight crime&#8211;the crimes perpetrated by the government. Just because the government does something doesn&#8217;t make it right or legal. Look at Guantanamo Bay. Look at Abu Ghraib. Look at domestic NSA surveillance.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.trekbbs.com\/threads\/showflat.php?Number=6424552#Post6424552\">The initial poster replied<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Yada, yada, yada&#8230; Yeah, you can sum up everything you know about the US by mentioning Gitmo, Abu Graib, and the NSA.<\/p>\n<p>For starters, there&#8217;s only a handful of zip codes that give a rat&#8217;s ass about Gitmo. One of them probably being San Francisco. The rest of the country says &#8220;KEEP&#8217;EM LOCKED UP!&#8221; The truth to the matter is that conditions at Gitmo are actually BETTER than they are at most domestic prisons. That&#8217;s why when all the human rights watch groups actually go down there to observe the facility, they all come back with different opinions.<\/p>\n<p>And if you let the nine knuckleheads at Abu Graib define the work of the US armed forces in Iraq, then it&#8217;s you who need to get some perspective.<\/p>\n<p>And the NSA wiretaps? Oh you mean the ones that along with MI-5, Scotland Yard, and Pakistani intel that foiled the recent terror plot in London? I have no problem with NSA listening to suspected terrorist chatter&#8230;.why? Because I&#8217;m not a fucking terrorist!!!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Naturally, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trekbbs.com\/threads\/showflat.php?Number=6424935#Post6424935\">I had to reply<\/a> to this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dude, did my point go <i>completely<\/i> over your head?<\/p>\n<p>My thesis is that a government&#8217;s actions aren&#8217;t automatically legal, no matter what George W. Bush and Alberto Gonzales believe. I provided examples, from our own recent past, of governmental actions that violate the law. You may think them fine, but that doesn&#8217;t alter the fact that the law says torture is illegal, that combatants must not be held without due process, that wiretaps require a court order.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d rather talk within the confines of the <i>V<\/i> universe, I can provide examples there, too.<\/p>\n<p>The government&#8217;s actions in poisoning the water supply and unleashing a biological toxin that killed a hundred thousand people and then pinned on religious extremists&#8211;is <i>that<\/i> legal?<\/p>\n<p>The Larkhill Detention facility&#8211;is <i>that<\/i> legal?<\/p>\n<p>The brutalization of Gordon Dietrich&#8211;is <i>that<\/i> legal?<\/p>\n<p>My point, Johnny Rico, is that the government that creates the laws also has an obligation to follow those laws. The government shouldn&#8217;t commit state-sponsored murder, on the individual level or the massive level, and yet we see both in V. Citizens shouldn&#8217;t fear that the government will intrude upon their personal lives at the risk of their own liberty, and yet the stories of Valerie and Gordon both testify to that fear.<\/p>\n<p>If a government can break its own laws, then what good are laws? If a government can ignore the social contract with its people, then why should that government derive power from the people?<\/p>\n<p>V <i>did<\/i> fight crime, Johnny Rico, only a crime that you clearly would not recognize. A crime committed by a government is no less a crime. V is no less a vigilante than Batman, it&#8217;s only the criminals they fight that differ.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The film&#8217;s central ethic is stated early in the film by V&#8211;&#8220;People should not be afraid of their governments.  Governments should be afraid of their people.&#8221;  It&#8217;s an idea that resonates down through the centuries, from the Magna Carta to the ideas of John Locke to the Revolutionary Fathers.  <i>V For Vendetta<\/i> is nothing less than a parable for our times, a film which shows us what <i>might<\/i> happen if we allow it to happen, if we become complacent, if we give in to our fears.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last night, browsing one of the bulletin boards I frequent, I chanced across a thread blasting V For Vendetta, the adaptation of Alan Moore and David Lloyd&#8217;s graphic novel about an anarchist fighting a near-future fascist British government, for being, and I quote, &#8220;boring.&#8221; Said the writer of the post: If this was supposed to<a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/?p=826\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8220;On Defending V For Vendetta&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[92,119],"tags":[273,387,4108,4141,471],"class_list":["post-826","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-film","category-politics","tag-george-bush","tag-iraq","tag-politics","tag-torture","tag-v-for-vendetta","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/826","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=826"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/826\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=826"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=826"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.allyngibson.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=826"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}